Auto Sleep S3
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Kerry
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Re: Auto Sleep S3
Can you guys accept S3 but cannot wake the NAS up from remote location? Asustor is as good as the other brands of NAS in hard drive hibernation. But it is a technical difficulty for Wake on WAN.
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mangruva
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Re: Auto Sleep S3
Even if there is a technical difficulty in waking up the NAS when needed, that should not prohibit ASUSTOR from making a sleep function on idle. Let me explain why:
It is my choice to decide how to use my NAS. I only want to use it for periodic backup. I will set my computer to wake up the NAS using a magic packet right before I initiate a backup, say at 8pm every night. I am not a office super user who needs to keep this NAS on all day so office workers can copy to it without needing to wake it up.
If I need to use Plex remotely or download a file remotely, I will send a WOL packet and I expect it to go back to sleep when idle. I don't want the extra step of sending a sleep instruction using the AIMaster app.
Again, different needs for different people. If this function is offered by Synology and QNAP, it should be offered by ASUSTOR.
Their response of not allowing sleep on idle because NAS is a server does not apply to my situation and many other people's needs!
http://support.asustor.com/index.php?/K ... p-function
I returned my ASUSTOR NAS but will buy it again if the auto-sleep function is added. I keep scanning these forums and crossing my fingers. I love the ASUSTOR otherwise. My current backup is to build a server using an intel NUC or comparable and back it up to Google Drive. The server will run Windows so at least the auto sleep will be reliable.
One more thing, there is no use touting the "first ever" S3 function if it is not robust or at least similar to or better than the basic sleep by other NAS companies.
It is my choice to decide how to use my NAS. I only want to use it for periodic backup. I will set my computer to wake up the NAS using a magic packet right before I initiate a backup, say at 8pm every night. I am not a office super user who needs to keep this NAS on all day so office workers can copy to it without needing to wake it up.
If I need to use Plex remotely or download a file remotely, I will send a WOL packet and I expect it to go back to sleep when idle. I don't want the extra step of sending a sleep instruction using the AIMaster app.
Again, different needs for different people. If this function is offered by Synology and QNAP, it should be offered by ASUSTOR.
Their response of not allowing sleep on idle because NAS is a server does not apply to my situation and many other people's needs!
http://support.asustor.com/index.php?/K ... p-function
I returned my ASUSTOR NAS but will buy it again if the auto-sleep function is added. I keep scanning these forums and crossing my fingers. I love the ASUSTOR otherwise. My current backup is to build a server using an intel NUC or comparable and back it up to Google Drive. The server will run Windows so at least the auto sleep will be reliable.
One more thing, there is no use touting the "first ever" S3 function if it is not robust or at least similar to or better than the basic sleep by other NAS companies.
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Kerry
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Re: Auto Sleep S3
For your requirements, then I think the auto entering S3 mode can fulfill. However, I like to have the auto sleep and also I should be able to wake up the NAS remotely so in case I need to use the NAS urgently I can turn it on right away.
BTW, Qnap or Synology only has hard drive hibernation, not the sleep function.
BTW, Qnap or Synology only has hard drive hibernation, not the sleep function.
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Kerry
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Re: Auto Sleep S3
If we take a look at the same Intel Atom D2700 processor:
Asustor AS-604T: http://www.asustor.com/product?p_id=1&lan=en
Power Consumption: 33.2W (Operation); 26.2W (Disk Hibernation); 1.4W (Sleep Mode)² ==> power consumption very low and can start up the NAS very quickly. 6-20 seconds.
Synology DS1513+: http://www.synology.com/en-global/products/spec/DS1513+
Power Consumption 51W (Access)
25.75W (HDD Hibernation)
Qnap TS-469 Pro: http://www.qnap.com/i/en/product/model. ... 21&event=2
Power Consumption (W) Sleep mode: 25W
In Operation:43W, Power-off (in WOL mode): 1W ==> this is completely shutdown state and the system restart will take very long time (3-4 minutes). I have the old TS-459 before.
(with 4 x 500GB HDD installed)
The word of Sleep or Hibernation in Synology or Qnap is very confusing and is referring to hard drive hibernation but the NAS system is still up and running (the motherboard, CPU, memory etc. all are running) and that is the reason why NAS is still consuming 25~26W. But in the case of Asustor sleep mode, it is S3 mode (suspend to RAM) and only the ram is powered and all the rest electronic components are off. This is the reason why the power consumption is only 1.4W.
*S3 (STR) Standby: In this state, the CPU has no power, the power supply is in a reduced power mode, main memory (RAM) is still powered, although it is almost the only component that is. Since the state of the operating system and all applications, open documents, etc. lies all in main memory, the user can resume work exactly where they left off the main memory content when the computer comes back from S3 is the same as when it was put into S3. S3 has two advantages over S4; the computer is faster to resume than to reboot, secondly if any running applications (opened documents, etc) have private information in them, this will not be written to the disk. However, disk caches may be flushed to prevent data corruption in case the system doesn't wake up e.g. due to power failure. STR means Save To RAM. In modern operating systems it's called as: Standby in versions of Windows through Windows XP and in some varieties of Linux, Sleep in Windows Vista and Mac OS X.
http://gsmblog.com/post/Difference-betw ... -BIOS.aspx
Asustor AS-604T: http://www.asustor.com/product?p_id=1&lan=en
Power Consumption: 33.2W (Operation); 26.2W (Disk Hibernation); 1.4W (Sleep Mode)² ==> power consumption very low and can start up the NAS very quickly. 6-20 seconds.
Synology DS1513+: http://www.synology.com/en-global/products/spec/DS1513+
Power Consumption 51W (Access)
25.75W (HDD Hibernation)
Qnap TS-469 Pro: http://www.qnap.com/i/en/product/model. ... 21&event=2
Power Consumption (W) Sleep mode: 25W
In Operation:43W, Power-off (in WOL mode): 1W ==> this is completely shutdown state and the system restart will take very long time (3-4 minutes). I have the old TS-459 before.
(with 4 x 500GB HDD installed)
The word of Sleep or Hibernation in Synology or Qnap is very confusing and is referring to hard drive hibernation but the NAS system is still up and running (the motherboard, CPU, memory etc. all are running) and that is the reason why NAS is still consuming 25~26W. But in the case of Asustor sleep mode, it is S3 mode (suspend to RAM) and only the ram is powered and all the rest electronic components are off. This is the reason why the power consumption is only 1.4W.
*S3 (STR) Standby: In this state, the CPU has no power, the power supply is in a reduced power mode, main memory (RAM) is still powered, although it is almost the only component that is. Since the state of the operating system and all applications, open documents, etc. lies all in main memory, the user can resume work exactly where they left off the main memory content when the computer comes back from S3 is the same as when it was put into S3. S3 has two advantages over S4; the computer is faster to resume than to reboot, secondly if any running applications (opened documents, etc) have private information in them, this will not be written to the disk. However, disk caches may be flushed to prevent data corruption in case the system doesn't wake up e.g. due to power failure. STR means Save To RAM. In modern operating systems it's called as: Standby in versions of Windows through Windows XP and in some varieties of Linux, Sleep in Windows Vista and Mac OS X.
http://gsmblog.com/post/Difference-betw ... -BIOS.aspx