How install Xfce on myHD

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How install Xfce on myHD

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Hi!
I am trying to run my normal desktop to be able to use ubuntu instalation in myHD as on a normal computer. So far, I have managed to get what you see in the photos.
I am asking the question, especially to father_mande, if I chose the right direction in my endeavors, if so what next - I don't really know how to run xfce completely without xorg running (of course I don't have them installed in myHD because why, xorg is on the asustor side) as if they were running on a normal system. I am constantly looking for some alternatives to limux-center - because there is no point in looking for technical support, because it is linux and asustor does not support linux (although its debian for linux-center is not an official only custom for adm).
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Re: How install Xfce on myHD

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Hi,

I run test and integration of my own desktop in myHD
... but I used desktop able to be correct on a TV screen (so large icons and not so far Asportal)
... I don't try xfce but normally it's possible ... it's just a little complex, because I just keep what is really need for myHD and not full Linux even based on Ubuntu 1804 & 2004 (next release)
... as I know, you can test 3 things :
... ... don't run as root ... use for ex. astr user (pre-defined)
... ... symlink gpg-agaent to /bin/true (best is before starting xfce and return back just after
... ... xfconf-query --channel xfce4-session --property /startup/gpg-agent/enabled --create --type bool --set false (but not as root but under a user)

If you want a quick response (sorry I am busy) ... you can try to used VirtualBox to get a full Ubuntu
also nothing (except stopping Xorg in A.D.M.) forbids you to install Xorg in myHD .. eventually by getting the xorg.conf from A.D.M. if the default configuration don't work as well.

When I get some free time, I try to use a more standard Desktop like xfce and return to you my own experience.

Philippe.
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Re: How install Xfce on myHD

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Thank's for answer !
I thinking about virtualbox but under it no vaapi acceleration, so no video playback like from kodi so only solution for me is myHD ( or working linux-center whitch is impossible :()
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Re: How install Xfce on myHD

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Hi,

Just F.Y.I. ... only as a "proof of concept" I don't know if I write a documentation for expert or provide this in myHD ... because large number of Asportal user ... use it on TV screen, and xfce4 is more for "normal" desktop.
I have done a test ... context :
... myHD with Ubuntu 204 (focal) L.T.S.
... use of systemd (/sbin/init) in place of bash as initial program for chroot in namespace to avoid to manage myself require services
... use of Xorg provide by Asustor (so only asportal is stopped) .
... install xfce4 but without lot of Xorg depends.
result :
... xfce4 run, Chrome and Kodi19 also ... EVEN I DO ONLY SHORT TESTS ... not all sound tests etc.
... not all xfce modules are installed
... small top bar is the Vnc client use for getting screen capture
... open the image (original 1920x1080 resized to 1280x720) in a new tab to have complete screen view.

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Re: How install Xfce on myHD

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father.mande wrote:Hi,

Just F.Y.I. ... only as a "proof of concept" I don't know if I write a documentation for expert or provide this in myHD ... because large number of Asportal user ... use it on TV screen, and xfce4 is more for "normal" desktop.
I have done a test ... context :
... myHD with Ubuntu 204 (focal) L.T.S.
... use of systemd (/sbin/init) in place of bash as initial program for chroot in namespace to avoid to manage myself require services
... use of Xorg provide by Asustor (so only asportal is stopped) .
... install xfce4 but without lot of Xorg depends.
result :
... xfce4 run, Chrome and Kodi19 also ... EVEN I DO ONLY SHORT TESTS ... not all sound tests etc.
... not all xfce modules are installed
... small top bar is the Vnc client use for getting screen capture
... open the image (original 1920x1080 resized to 1280x720) in a new tab to have complete screen view.

xfce_myHD.png
Philippe.
Bravo, father_mande!!!

I knew you would try [WINKING FACE]
If you provide any details, he will be happy to test it himself. Also maybe think about eg making a package for those users who would like to have an asustor use a normal Linux distribution.


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Re: How install Xfce on myHD

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Hi,

Please be patient ... a "proof of concept" is build by hands ... so require some more works to be documented for another user than me (I am a handyman not a professional)

Philippe.
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